I give up dude. Anyway, that speaker LEGALLY was made in Canada.
You ignored where I asked about your info source. I have strong doubts ALL the parts were made by Altec.
In the absence of a citation, I don't agree it's all Altec.
I give up dude. Anyway, that speaker LEGALLY was made in Canada.
You ignored where I asked about your info source. I have strong doubts ALL the parts were made by Altec.
In the absence of a citation, I don't agree it's all Altec.
Your neighbors called. They like your music.
That's your opinion.Like I'm entitled to mine.Whenever someone else has a difference of opinion that differs from yours you get attitude.(Dude I give Up).I thought we were having a discussion.When I said the parts were made by Altec I was talking about the basket,motor assembly,diaphragm,Multicell horn,etc and then you replied with adhesives.And since when was Altec a big producer of literature ? Especially from the 1940's.For years in their flagship speaker (M19) and for one of their best small format drivers (802-8G) all they produced for it literature wise was "Tangerine phase plug driver". So we should all provide literature when we post to be fair. Correct ?
You first qouted my post remember ? Not me qouting yours.
I wouldn't be surprised if they were made by Altec and Northern just slapped labels on them.Similar to what Heath and IPC did.
WHERE is ONE SHRED of evidence those parts were made by Altec? You are the one with the attitude problem. You presented your thoughts, likely wrong, as fact. WE had substantial speaker building capacity at the time I suspect they made the parts. I say suspect, you say WERE and just get louder when contradicted. You've been told you have an issue, but choose not to deal with it. Say YOU THINK not WERE. I'll say what I think and it's over. But you keep running sidetracks and ignore questions, then accuse ME of attitude? Please look in a mirror. Bottom line I was around this old stuff way more, till you give me proof I say you are wrong.Originally Posted by Altec Best
That's your opinion.Like I'm entitled to mine.Whenever someone else has a difference of opinion that differs from yours you get attitude.(Dude I give Up).I thought we were having a discussion.When I said the parts were made by Altec I was talking about the basket,motor assembly,diaphragm,Multicell horn,etc and then you replied with adhesives.And since when was Altec a big producer of literature ? Especially from the 1940's.For years in their flagship speaker (M19) and for one of their best small format drivers (802-8G) all they produced for it literature wise was "Tangerine phase plug driver". So we should all provide literature when we post to be fair. Correct ?
You first qouted my post remember ? Not me qouting yours.
I wouldn't be surprised if they were made by Altec and Northern just slapped labels on them.Similar to what Heath and IPC did.
Your neighbors called. They like your music.
I'm talking about this particular 604 in this thread. That is made by Altec Lansing and assembled by Northern Electric. Were talking about a speaker that was made in the 1940's..At that point NE was forced to develop it's own products.For all intense of purposes,this is a 604-604B.With it's probable 20159 (paper surround) cone and the larger Multicell horn. In the 1940-50's is when America was truly an industrial giant.Not like today where there is a hodge podge of parts manufactured in many countries and assembled in who knows what country.So this speaker with it's very early serial I would say was manufactured in the early 40's
Western Electric History
ALTEC NORTHERN ELECTRIC 604 15" COAXIAL SPEAKER + CROSSOVER !! | eBay
"In the 1940's-50's there were no Chinese parts that went into any of Altec's Manufacturing."
"At that point NE was forced to develop it's own products."
Sure sounds like you said I was claiming Chinese parts in a 1940's speaker. Then you say you were talking about another speaker.
"The Anti-trust lawsuit filed in 1949 forced WE/AT&T to sell it's stake in Northern Electric in 1956."
Cut and paste.
"At that point NE was forced to develop it's own products."
Edited to fit your agenda you took out phone. Says nothing about speakers, at a link YOU posted.
They still could have made under license.
This is a WWII era speaker most American manufacturing was for the war at the time.
You are wrong on component issues. Using something like a cone to date a speaker is completely wrong, that cone could have been put in last year.
I say Altec was doing war contracts...they built a lot for WWII. Assembly requires jigs, if WE/NE went to that expense they likely had molds, or at least WE did. I still see zero evidence for your opinion. If Altec made EVERY part it would have been cheaper to use Altec's jigs and finish the job. Altec likely could NOT furnish parts.You could well be proven right, and had you simply stated Think instead of were, Then not went off on the Chinese 1940's tangent this would have been a much shorter thread. Please don't present your opinion as fact, and I strongly feel web quotes should be verbatim.
Your neighbors called. They like your music.
was thinking of you even before posting.Blame it on Canada.
Nice catch Tom.
hence the capital 'C'
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what i'd like to know are the trivial pursuit stuff, like where/by whom these were made.
and why in the great white north?
maybe todd knows something he can relate.
or steve s.
amazing how many steps are involved, sometimes .
and strange money changing/weird pr stuff
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the next thing i saw on the internet after this was the 'forum-censoring-issue'
at a special interest community on hostboard
couldn't stop myself -
http://www.hostboard.com/forums/f294...ing-issue.html
Last edited by Todd W. White; April 20th, 2012 at 05:53 PM. Reason: deleted picture - we have kids that view our forum, some who are even underage. :-) - Todd
guns kill people,
like spoons made rush limbaugh,
fat ....
lets not forget the resources western electric had way before altec came to be. if ma bell was expanding into the great white north, why wouldnt they have manufacturing there as well
"those sounds to which no definite pitch can be assigned are usually classified as noise"<br />harvey fletcher-1928
this is the most plausible explanation so far
guns kill people,
like spoons made rush limbaugh,
fat ....
I believe the thought about it being a wartime situation might be correct. I remember someone talking about that years ago, but I've slept since then...I also remember someone saying that there was a time when it was cheaper to build things in Canada than import them from the USA, but I'm not sure.
Oh - and I removed the clip of the girl in the car because:
1. We do have people who are underage that view our forum (main reason), and
2. It really was a bit "off-topic", meaning it wasn't Altec-related.
As far as the rest of the discussion is concerned:
Yes, today is a different world when it comes to manufacturing. Nothing that I know of is totally "Made in U.S.A." anymore. There are parts that are sourced from all over, but, as someone rightly said, there is a legal percentage of the sum total that has to be actually made in this country for them to be able to claim that.
As for the rest of this discussion, let's all keep in mind that we're all here to share and enjoy our love for Altec and Altec-related stuff.
Todd W. White, Owner & Webmaster
Altec Lansing's (unofficial) Homepage
I'll drink to that. Hope a club soda and fresh lime will suffice, don't do Demon Rum, have not for years.
AB, if we got out of hand, please it's not PERSONAL. I apologize for any offense, but I expect nothing less if I post something wrong. And I have been caught at that before, remember.
Your neighbors called. They like your music.
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